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Nuevas GPU QUADRO de nVidia

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¡Venga chicos, a babear un rato!

https://www.xataka.com/componentes/quad ... 2-y-nvlink

Y a rabiar también. ¡Vaya precios! Supongo que montaran los ensamblajes o realizarán extrusiones helicoidales cónicas simplemente con insinuárselo con voz tenue y sugerente ¿no?.

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Re: Nuevas GPU QUADRO de nVidia

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Ya me gustaría a mi probar una de estas, aunque sea la mas sencilla, pero se aleja muuuuuucho de mi pequeño presupuesto. Que pena no tener mucho dinero (ganado honradamente), para poder preparar un equipazo con lo mas de lo mas. Pero mientras eso llega, que será nunca, me tendré que conformar con mi pequeña Quadro 600 :13 :13

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Re: Nuevas GPU QUADRO de nVidia

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Buscando por la red me he encontrado esto:

He estado buscando un post antiguo en el que hablaba del tema para continuar con el mismo, pero no lo he encontrado así que lo cuelgo en este. No pillo mucho de inglés y encima el tío este parece que lo hayan "overclockeado" de lo rápido que va, pero me parece entender que no está muy a favor del uso de las Quadro. ¿Algún alma caritativa del foro que nos pueda comentar un poco lo que dice el muchacho este?

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Re: Nuevas GPU QUADRO de nVidia

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Básicamente que ambas versiones, la normal y la Quadro usan el mismo chip, sin embargo la diferencia de precio es 10 veces mayor.
Entonces, el presentador hace algunos comentarios acerca de los diferentes mercados a las cuales las diferentes tarjetas de video están orientadas, y por ello el fabricante puede exprimir mucho más dinero de los clientes.

Esto es lo que dice:

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so this graphics card is five hundred
dollars and deliver some pretty bleep

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packs or FPS is a good look i don't care
doesn't matter the point is that it's

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the cat's pajamas and it's got a price
tag that reflects that to which I reply

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oh that's nothing like this there's this
other sick gfx card that is going to get

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so much more FPS isn't I think I know
what you're talking about and I do see

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how the logic works this one's five
hundred dollars and this one's 5,000 so

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like it must get ten times more FPS
right

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sorry no it won't a little bit of
Investigation about this particular card

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reveals that the actual graphics core
powering it is the very same gk110 as

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you would find in a regular old gtx 780
at one tenth of the price

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and while pc hardware may be powered by
magic blue smoke

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no amount of magic makes a chip with the
same design manufacture on the same

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process node perform that much better
than the same thing on another card

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alright so fine - I get it these aren't
a great value for gaming but this makes

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no sense if they're basically the same
thing why does one cost five thousand

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dollars well there are a few reasons but
the biggest one is that the target

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customers for this product

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large content production studios oil and
resource exploration firms and the like

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have a lot more money than you and me
and these products help them make so

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many more bucket loads of money that
they can easily justify the cost

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so in video would be crazy not to take
advantage of that and besides a quadrant

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a g-force running the same chip are
quite the same thing for starters and

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video controls the specifications and
quality assurance on all quadro cards

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unlike geforce cards which are left to
the board partners so you're going to

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get more displayport outputs unique form
factors like single slot cards and

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professional grade harbor validation
starting at its heart a quadro is going

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to get a GPU that is cherry picked for
the best reliability lowest power

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consumption and lowest heat output then
it's going to get equipped with a larger

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video memory frame buffer that features
error correction technology

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following that it's going to get special
drivers that are validated for seamless

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operation with the professional grade
applications that these kinds of cards

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work best for 3d modeling animation and
such and finally quadrille cards have

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one key feature and

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enabled and manufacturing that lies
dormant on most geforce cards with Titan

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being the only current exception

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double-precision floating-point
capabilities put all these things

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together and you've got a card that is
less susceptible to random errors works

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more reliably and for longer and can
perform calculations and draw images

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with a much greater degree of precision
than its consumer grade counterpart

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now this is the part where you probably
want to jump in the same will hold on a

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second - none of that really sounds like
it justifies the extra expense it seems

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like in videos actually kneecapping the
consumer cards as opposed to drizzling

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special sauce on the pro ones and imma
let you finish but it actually yeah I

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can't really argue with that assessment

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what I will say in defense of this
practice is that a the pro grade stuff

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does legitimately cost some more to make
be gamers don't really need this stuff i

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mean did you ever actually sit there
going with Jesus only the position of my

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character's head could have been
calculated 250 decimal places and see

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everyone does it

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this paintbrush is made of the same hair
from an animal's rear end as some

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consumer grade 1

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it's a bit better and it costs a lot
more at least something positive comes

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out of this practice when it comes to
tech co pros paying top dollar for gear

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gives innovative companies the R&D money
that they need to deliver better

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products for us consumers down the road

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so even though we can't afford that card
that's suitable for complex weather

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simulations today at least a year from
now our games will run faster than ever

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and we can thank the folks who spend a
lot of money on cuadros and firegl and

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Re: Nuevas GPU QUADRO de nVidia

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¡Caramba! Gracias Milimetro.

¿Qué aplicación has usado para realizar la transcripción? He traducido el texto con el traductor de Google y tampoco es que haya pillado mucho más de lo que entendí al ver el vídeo. No acabo de pillar lo del pijama del gato y el humo azul . . . Supongo que será por que habla inglés de los U.S.A. y no el de la B.B.C.

Me parece entender que la única justificación que encuentra al uso de las Quadro es que estas usan un tipo de procesadores no limitados que ofrecen mayor precisión de cálculo ¿no? De ser así sería bastante difícil calibrar correctamente el precio de las Quadro ya que no se podrían comparar con las GTX de gama alta.

Un saludo.

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Re: Nuevas GPU QUADRO de nVidia

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El programa para descargar los subtítulos se llama Google2SRT.
Y al menos en la versión para Linux necesita como requisito previo Java instalado en el sistema.

Respecto al lenguaje del muchacho.

"El pijama del gato" se podría entender como "la falda de mi abuela" o tal vez como "el moño de la niña", y no tiene mucho sentido.
Tampoco el "humo azul mágico", que tal vez se refiera a algo que fuma para recreación. Y él lo compara con la energía adicional para hacer que el hardware funcione más rápido.
Hay que entender que quién habla es un "hipster" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_% ... culture%29) o un liberal con educación de media a media-superior y que realmente cree que él y otros como él tienen la autoridad para predicar a los demás.
O dicho en cristiano... Coloquialmente es capaz de darse a entender, sin embargo las estructuras gramaticales que usa son de una persona con educación basica a básica-media. Y necesita pulir con gran esmero las artes de la oratoria.

Respecto a las Quadro.

Los chips de la versión para juegos y su análoga Quadro son idénticos.
La diferencia está en que la versión para juegos tiene las características específicas para CAD apagadas.
La versión Quadro estas características están activas y son manejadas por medio de un driver especial.

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